Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Dada and Surrealism


Dada and Surrealism both had large influences on the art world. Although very different in content and values, they both affected the art world at their times. Surrealism was in the early 1900’s and brought up sexuality, big breams, and social changes it was very creative an imaginative work. I found a lot of the surrealist art a little disturbing, but some of the ideas they brought up were quite interesting. It made people more open to more abstract and more aware of cultural values.

Dada art really brought in a lot of challenges to art. He challenged what art was at the time. He made everyday objects into pieces of art. But was it really art? He made people think about what art really was. He brought up questions that made people think what an artist needs to do to make something art, and if ideas can be considered art. The piece Fountain by Marcel Duchamp which was made in the 1960’s is a really good example of how much Dada art challenged society.

The Fountain piece is just a urinal, so a readymade object that many people own and many people can get at any time. It is turned on its side, so it no longer can serve as a working urinal, and he wrote on it R. Mutt. He was making fun of a pluming company, and having a good time with his art. But considering that he did not fashion this art with his own hands, and the context/meaning of his art was not typical he was rejected from the art show.

Just with this one piece Duchamp really challenged people with the idea of what art was. He brought up the issue of art being a readymade object, and really brought out the idea if art can really be made with just thought or the idea of something constitutes as art. He argued that it didn’t matter who made it, the artist chose it and created new meaning for the object he made an idea into art. He really just wanted people to think about art in a new light, he wanted people to see how this object being a urinal, is really not a urinal at all.

Personally, I agree with him. I think, you can make art from ideas and I think it is ok to use readymade objects to get across concepts or ideas, but I don’t think someone should take credit for making the readymade objects. 

So some of Duchamp’s artwork may have pushed and may still push the boundaries of art, I think for that very reason it should be at least given a chance, especially when there is an idea, or concept behind it. The idea and concept is what makes or breaks many pieces of art. And many concepts behind Duchamp’s art were valid, and entertaining, and should have been and should be considered art.

3 comments:

  1. Just a quick comment: Marcel Duchamp first made his "Fountain" in 1917. He did produce later versions of the statue (by just getting another urinal and signing it again). I just want to make sure that anyone who reads this blog realizes that Dadaism began early in the 20th century, during the time of WWI. The connection between the chaos of the Great War and the chaos Dada is really important to understanding the movement.

    -Prof. Bowen

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  2. While I agree with the question and value Duchamps contribution to the discussion and evolution of art I think a urinal is still just a urinal and if he wanted it to be more like a fountain he really should of set it up so it would spray water. I find it funny Duchamp puts a urinal in a gallery and it is art, but a person plants flowers in a toilet in their yard and they are hillbilly, or other unappealing names to my mind how is one any more or less hillbilly or art than the other? I spent my entire lecture watching time really banging my head wishing we were in a class and able to all chime in I enjoy hearing what others think about these topics of what constitutes art. I have my own definition but it is a bit of a living definition a really strong argument can sway me to bend a little here and there.

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  3. I think you have a lot of good points especially that someone should probably not take credit for a readymade object. In a parallel to that, I think that Rori (above) makes a really good point also. We do not always give credit to someone who uses their creativity to bring a new purpose to an object that is readymade. And if we are giving so much credit to Duchamp or other artists like him is it because of their subtle whit in which they poke fun at others? Maybe their stance on a subject is what draws us to them as art makers.

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